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Tue, Jan. 23rd, 2007, 12:04 pm
sier: Some "Rules" (movie) questions and thoughts.

Holy crap - that's right. Someone actually posted the the Camden College community.

My questions are related to "The Rules of Attraction" directed by Roger Avary - not the book by Bret. I know that might be blasphemey to some of you, but I want to keep the "READ THE BOOK" comments to a minimum. To start off, I have read the book several times and just wanted to get some feedback on Avary's interpretation of it.

In your opinion...

...does Sean have ultimately sex with Jamie (Kate Bosworth), or does he drive off on his bike?

...does Paul hook up with the hot guy who ends up coming out later on in life, or does he talk with Lauren outside?

...does Lauren get raped by the townie, or is she outside talking with Paul?

In other words, in your opinion, which version is the actual reality of the party?

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And if you have read Glamorama - do you think Avary was trying to use Victor and his doppleganger with the Lauren storyline or did Victor simply not remember her?

Tue, Jan. 23rd, 2007 07:45 pm (UTC)
ratherbewater

I like that we don't really know which reality is actual.

RE: Victor and his doppleganger. Interesting idea, but Glamorama took place years after Rules, and he didn't really have a duplicate until he was out of the country.

You also may want to put the Glamorama comment behind a cut because it is a spoiler for the book.

Tue, Jan. 23rd, 2007 07:52 pm (UTC)
sier

Yikes. Good point about the cut. I'll do that now.

And yeah, I like the fact that there is no real answer for this either. I am just curious how everyone views this aspect of the movie. Hell, in these types of stories both can be real, I suppose.

Tue, Jan. 23rd, 2007 07:57 pm (UTC)
ratherbewater

I love your icon. Can't wait for it to start up again.

It is possible, however, especially with Paul and Lauren, that they were outside talking after those events occurred. This comes to mind because we see Lauren walking off with the film student guy during the party at the end. I don't recall if we see Paul talking with the in-the-closet hottie.

Tue, Jan. 23rd, 2007 08:03 pm (UTC)
sier

Re: the icon - thanks. I can't wait for the next episode.

And you are totally correct about Paul and Lauren. I was thinking that Sean went into the party, then turned around and walked out - and Lauren and Paul were outside as well. But after watching it again that's not the cause. Maybe only Sean has an "alternate reality" in the movie...

I made a joke in another community earlier today that Ian S. needs to come back to LOST as Paul Denton and talk trash on Boone - which is what got me thinking about R of A.

Tue, Jan. 23rd, 2007 08:05 pm (UTC)
sier

cause = case*

typo.

Tue, Jan. 23rd, 2007 08:14 pm (UTC)
ratherbewater

I guess it is possible too that Sean didn't go back and have sex with Jamie. It could be that the scene was saw was like the one of her being left in the diner. It could have just been him imagining what that option would be like and that he did leave on his bike.

Tue, Jan. 23rd, 2007 09:49 pm (UTC)
bunny_biteme

I have different feelings about this. In the beginning Lauren's voice over says that she ended up loosing her virginity to the film major, and Paul's VO speaks of what happens in the future with the guy. However Sean's voice over speaks nothing of the future. So I think Lauren does get raped by the townie and Paul hooks up with the guy, but they end up outside. But Sean sees what will happen if he has sex with Kelly and puts the Jack Daniels down and walks out, he feels too far gone that he has to leave.

I don't know, some thing's don't match up and some things do. The only way we'd get the real answer is from Roger himself.